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Chinese Cooking Demystified's avatar

Excellent, even-handed article.

I’ve been following Pettis for a long time, and something that always slightly irked me is the framing of him as a “China hawk”. It’s worth putting him in context, I think - the economics department at PKU is famed for beating the drum wrt to overinvestment and low consumption growth. Pettis, as a foreigner, can likely make some of these arguments somewhat more forcefully than his Chinese colleagues… but it’s very clear that they’re all breathing the same intellectual winds. (as an aside, Pettis is also a genuine appreciator of the Chinese indie/underground music scene)

That certainly doesn’t mean that Pettis is above critique - I’m obviously not an economist, and did find, say, some of Tyler Cowen’s criticisms interesting as well. I also didn’t enjoy Trade Wars are Class Wars - it felt mostly like a dumbed down series of Pettis posts, with a sprinkling of low effort polemic in the mix (perhaps a different co-author might have been better?). But it’s quite obvious that Pettis *genuinely believes* that these ideas would be better for the Chinese people and Chinese state. Whether he’s correct is a different question.

In any event, I’m rambling. Great article.

Yu Hsing Chen's avatar

As someone who was once employed at a struggling factory, the notion that all excess production needed to be met with excess consumption sure was news to me remembering that warehouse with a ton ( many tons in fact) of built up inventory , and I did read The Trade war is class war book

The other notion he makes that most/ all of China’s investment post 2009-10 or so were excessive also seems ludicrous for anyone with a decent timeline memory of China over the years, and frankly seems to play into the problem that as a PKU professor living in inner parts of Beijing this seemed on brand as that’s probably the only few part of China that was already high level in infrastructure by then

In 2010 multiple 10 million plus cities in China didn’t have a metro system ( Chengdu/XiAn ) or obviously very wealthy but slightly smaller cities like HangZhou and Ningbo, while pretty much everyone can agree there are excess infrastructure in China ( though obviously most argue over the degree) only the most hardcore right winger would think 2010 China overall had more than enough infrastructure (when not only did China only started to build its HSR, but actually most of its highways as well) and indeed the argument of those people tend to seem to reach the logical conclusion that places like Congo with almost no infrastructure is the ideal state it seems

I agree the analysis has merits but it seems to me the biggest bug in the system of world economy is one player having a credit card that basically has no limits ( or at least not constrained by the same logic as everyone else) and has used it accordingly

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