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Chinese Cooking Demystified's avatar

Excellent, even-handed article.

I’ve been following Pettis for a long time, and something that always slightly irked me is the framing of him as a “China hawk”. It’s worth putting him in context, I think - the economics department at PKU is famed for beating the drum wrt to overinvestment and low consumption growth. Pettis, as a foreigner, can likely make some of these arguments somewhat more forcefully than his Chinese colleagues… but it’s very clear that they’re all breathing the same intellectual winds. (as an aside, Pettis is also a genuine appreciator of the Chinese indie/underground music scene)

That certainly doesn’t mean that Pettis is above critique - I’m obviously not an economist, and did find, say, some of Tyler Cowen’s criticisms interesting as well. I also didn’t enjoy Trade Wars are Class Wars - it felt mostly like a dumbed down series of Pettis posts, with a sprinkling of low effort polemic in the mix (perhaps a different co-author might have been better?). But it’s quite obvious that Pettis *genuinely believes* that these ideas would be better for the Chinese people and Chinese state. Whether he’s correct is a different question.

In any event, I’m rambling. Great article.

Satish Thatte's avatar

I have always found Pettis' attempt to make a causal connection between financial flows and deficits questionable, arguing that financial flows *cause* deficits. Agree with your overall thrust but there is one issue that you did not address: Pettis argues that the Chinese approach is only possible with the side effect of unsustainably ballooning overall debt in the system. The control of the state over the financial system allows this to go much further than in a liberal economy with what he calls "hard budget constraints" but is the ballooning of the overall debt a real risk that the system is vulnerable to in the longer run? And also, is there an aspect of overestimating GDP by counting wasted investments on, for example, real estate or unproductive infrastructure, as assets rather than losses? Rhodium group has argued that China's GDP growth is seriously overestimated for this reason among others.

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